Oral History Interview with Bernice Fishman
Bernice Fishman (née Bronia Grandens), born in Vronki, Poland in 1934; her father, who owned a clothing store; fleeing with her mother to her mother's parents in Staszow in 1939; the establishment of the Staszow Ghetto in 1940; Jewish children being educated clandestinely; being sent with her brother to live with a Polish farmer before the ghetto was evacuated; her grandmother joining them later; her grandfather and her father being sent to the Skarzysko concentration camp; her mother being hidden by a neighbor; leaving with her brother and grandmother to go to a town that was supposed to be a sanctuary for Jews; being caught by the Polish police and imprisoned for a week; being told daily they would be shot; her parents bribing somebody to get them out of prison; being hidden with her brother, aunt, and uncle by a succession of Poles in Ogrodzenie; posing as Catholics; feeling hungry often and her fear of being discovered; her four year old brother dying because they were afraid to take him to a doctor; getting sick and walking to a Catholic hospital, where she received care; being reunited with her parents in 1945; her family renting an apartment in Kielce that they shared with four other Jewish families; her mother giving birth to a girl; how her family managed to survive despite the constant fear of Polish antisemitism; how while she was hiding with the Kuchatays, she had to pose as a Catholic, go to confession, and receive communion, but never forgot she was Jewish; how after the war Mrs. Kuchatay found the family and threatened to sue unless Bernice converted legally; her family fleeing to Bytom, Poland with the help of Bernice's uncle who was in the Russian Army; the Kielce pogrom after they left; being smuggled into Czechoslovakia; going to a displaced persons camp near Stuttgart, Germany; attending a school for Jewish children where classes were conducted in Hebrew; her father obtaining an apartment in a house owned by a former member of the Nazi party; the different behavior of Poles, Russians, Czechs, and Germans toward Jews; and her family immigrating to the United States in 1950, sponsored by Bernice's cousin who was an American citizen.
Date: | 05/29/1991 |
Interviewer: | Natalie Packel |
Interviewee: | Bernice Fishman |
Language: | English |
Subject: | Antisemitism--Poland. Catholics. Hidden children (Holocaust) Hiding places. Holocaust survivors. Holocaust, Jewish (1939-1945)--Poland--Personal narratives. Jewish children in the Holocaust. Jews--Poland. Passing (Identity)--Poland. Pogroms--Poland--Kielce. Refugee camps--Germany--Stuttgart. World War, 1939-1945--Deportations from Poland. World War, 1939-1945--Jews--Rescue--Poland. World War, 1939-1945--Prisoners and prisons, Polish. Women--Personal narratives. Bytom (Poland) Czechoslovakia. Kielce (Poland) Ogrodzieniec (Województwo Slaskie, Poland) Poland--History--Occupation, 1939-1945. Staszów (Województwo Swietokrzyskie, Poland) Stuttgart (Germany) United States--Emigration and immigration. Wronki (Pila, Poland) Fishman, Bernice, 1934- Skarzysko-Kamienna (Concentration camp) |
Location: | Wronki, Poland Staszów, Poland Staszow Ghetto Ogrodzona, Poland Kielce, Poland Stuttgart displaced persons camp USA |
Permalink: | https://hoha.digitalcollections.gratzcollege.edu/item/oral-history-interview-with-bernice-fishman/ |
Audio Transcript | Time |
---|---|
1:04:39 | |
0:28:41 |